Showing posts with label suffering. Show all posts
Showing posts with label suffering. Show all posts

Tuesday, November 17, 2009

Does Suffering really lead to success?

Many say you must suffer in order to really succeed which i believe to a certain extend. The reason for this is because even today you see the ones who have struggled the most and have been through the worst of times usually are the ones that push them self in order to succeed and get away from that horrible lifestyle they have lived. An example is many athletes, most of them grew up in a very poor run down city and they push them self in order to be the best they can be and help provide there family's with a better lifestyle.

In the Book The Odyssey King Odysseus is suffering on the island of Troy for years ,but from that he has learned many things and required many strengths.Also if he had not been through what he has Odysseus would not be as much as a hero then he was in Ithaca since he was fighting for his city.But also if you suffered to much that could be a horrible thing since it will haunt you for the rest of your life and may even cause you to snap. That is why i believe suffering does help you succeed but only to a certain extend.

Tuesday, November 10, 2009

What do you get from greatness?

“But you, Achilles,
there’s not a man in the world more blest than you—
there never has been, never will be one.
Time was, when you were alive, we Argives
honored you as a god, and now down here, I see,
you lord it over the dead in all your power.
So grieve no more at dying, great Achilles.”

I reassured the ghost, but he broke out, protesting,
“No winning words about death to me, shining Odysseus!
By god, I’d rather slave on earth for another man—
some dirt-poor tenant farmer who scrapes to keep alive—
than rule down here over all the breathless dead.”
Book 11, pg 265, line 547

This is a conversation between Odysseus and Achilles during Odysseus's time talking with various people in the underworld. Both wish for the lives each are living or have lived, according to Achilles he is longing to live again as Odysseus is now. But on the other hand Odysseus wishes to be just as great as Achilles is now, and wants to be as celebrated a hero as he. I believe this conversation shows how suffering once again arises in The Odyssey. Achilles may be dead and suffering but at the same time his accomplishments are still remembered and glorified by all. To Achilles though, he would rather be suffering on earth just for the chance to live again and give up all his greatness. In this case greatness may just give you suffering in the end, unlike earlier instances in the book were they show suffering gives greatness.