Tuesday, December 15, 2009
Our technology has exceeded our humanity..
Albert Einstein
Einstein wrote this quote more than 60 years ago, and it is kind of funny that he already tought that our technology has exceeded our humanity. I wonder what he would say if he saw our world now..
Identification
The Odyssey, Book 9
Odysseus finally know who he is, he recognizes his identity and decides to fight to accomplish his nostos
Beauty
The Odyssey, Book 5
Sunday, December 13, 2009
Transition
(Book V, Line 543-547)
Dream in the epic is very important because it represets transitions in the hero's journey. We see how Odyseeus arrives to the "real world" after all of the effort to get out of the mythological world. He rests and the next day when he wakes up he will be in a more civilized realm without all the unhuman magic surrounded him. This is very important because it means he is a step closer to the ultimate civilized place, that is his beloved Ithaca.
From Boy to Man
(Book II, line 12-14)
For me this part of the epic is very important because is when the boy is showing signs that he is going to become the man that we are all expecting to see. Telemachus needs to take action against the suitors but he still does not know how. I think the conversation with Athena is a Catalyst for him to understand that the next step is leaving Ithaca in order to become a man and come back again as a hero and inherit the Kleos from his father. When he takes his father's seat in the council of Ithaca and he is the one who calls the meating, we can say that he is taking charge as the prince and future king. We can also say that although he does try he is not ready yet because after he explains his concerns to the council he starts to cry, letting us know in a way that he is not ready yet and that he needs to undergo the rite of passage.
Friday, December 11, 2009
Forge Your Own Destiny
Imminent Destruction
our mother earth breeds nothing feebler than a man.
So long as the gods grant him power, spring in his knees,
he thinks he will never suffer affliction down the years.
But then, when the happy gods bring on the long hard times,
bear them he must, against his will, and steel his heart.
Our lives, our mood and mind as we pass across the earth,
turn as the days turn . . ."
This quote is a reference to what has happened to Odysseus. He feels himself to be completely under the power of the gods every whim, a feeling particularly common in the Greek psyche. It also shows a difference between how he accepts the burden and struggles through, hoping for better times, where many people would give up and wallow in their self pity and emotion, something that Odysseus rarely allows himself to do.
The quote is also a foreshadowing of what will happen to the suitors. They have a false sense of power, that will soon be torn from them, damning them to suffering and being forgotten.
It emphasizes also the power that the gods have. i feel that the childish emotional behaviour of the gods was a key part of why people were so god-fearing. They were not purely rational logical beings and so they have to tread carefully, apeasing the gods at every step along the way.
reference to what happened to odysseus
foreshadowing of what will happen to the suitors
Beauty
-Audrey Hepburn
Beauty, its nothing we've known, its a state of mind, a state of being. Beauty does in truth lie within the beholder. Beauty can be both harmful and harmless but if we look into the deeper meaning the way Audrey Hepburn put it doesn't matter what the person looks like its how they use it and that's beauty.
Biding his time
book 17. line 255-260
In order for Odysseus to controll the element of surprise he must hold himself back and take whatever punishment he recieves. For if he were to lash out at the goatherd he would have to face the suitors and they would surly not stand for a lowly begger killing a servent who provided them their meat. Now is not the time for himself to confront the suitors and reveal himself so he must hold his ground. However he still has his pride and does not allow himself to show any sign that the goatherds harsh taunts and attack had any affect on him.
PEACE!
We all are dreamers, but we don't have to just dream for peace. Of course world peace is hard to achieve but everyone can make a difference and a little goes along way. When I think of myself i don't know what I'm doing in my society to help achieve this I cant start with the world but I can start within my city. I need to start something as we all do. It has almost been 30 years of the death of John Lennon and its sad to know he didn't achieve his pursuit of peace but the thought of it will be persevered and together we will work for it.
The path of suffering
The message is to undergo suffering because it cant be avoided. Odysseus will just be delaying time until he can deliver some serious payback!
starvation
Eurylochos considers starvation the worst death of all and prefers to commit a crime against the gods than suffer this fate. Which until now hasnt been mentioned, however because food is so important to the Greeks it isnt surprising
Justice
-Athena
Athene reminds us that the suitors deserve death not only for violating the laws of hospitality, but for plotting to kill Telemachus and to marry Penelope.
They did bad things
Odysseus reminds Eurykleia that the suitors were not killed for personal pleasure, therefore, they should not rejoice at the fallen men.
Question of Justice
I think it is justice that Ktesippos receives death for throwing a cow’s foot at a beggar any ideas?
Gods rule all
The way that Poseidon works under Zeus’ force is an example of fate and free will combined. While he must eventually allow Odysseus to go home, he gets to choose how long it takes and how much the man will suffer in the process. Similarly, Odysseus is going to suffer and eventually go home, but his actions along the way are a matter of choice. The question then is whether, with the end point decided, the path to get there matters at all.
Destiny!
Zeus suggests that man does have some control over his own destiny, but does the Odyssey argue for this? hmm who knowsss
home
-Book 17
- Display of the glory and richness of odysseus home .
Kingdom of the dead
Odysseus is finally coming to terms with death. He can now go home. I think of of my favourite books is book eleven because it shows how fearless Odysseus is and how he talks to his mother, that specifically was so sad. Also i think it was ironic how he talks to all the greatest hero's and the last hero he talks to is Heracles the greatest of them all, it sets him back on foot to finally finished his nastos.
warnings
- explaning a warning to the suitors .
Homecoming
-Telemachus
Telemachus is finally growing into a adult and even though his father still isn't home he understands that Odysseus is on his nastos but he doesn't want the suitors to know. He is trying to keep his mother safe so he doesn't tell them the news Athena tells him. This shows us another them of lies and deceit.
hospitality
Eumaius complains about the suitors who have destroyed the estate and he longs for the return of Odysseus, and shares his meat with odysseus. the suitors have been taking to much for granted .
The nature of things
On the nature of things
Loeb pp. 145
troubles will turn
The words do not foretell the future but recount the past and, explain the lesson it has taught him. To carry on and he accept his harships in the end troubles will turn .
Suffering
-Odysseus
Odysseus agrees that one of the worst kinds of suffering is hunger and I think its sad because today in our modern day there are about 13% of the world population that don't have enough food to eat each day to have a healthy life. Six million children have malnutrition and are starving. They them selves have to endure hard sorrows and pain, and what are we doing to fix it?
envy
The heroes soeak on the differences between the two worlds they now inhabit, and each finds they'd rather be on the othe side. Odysseus envies Achilles’ strength and his kleos that it won him; Achilles envies Odysseus for being alive.
nostos
- calypso making her plea for odysseus to stay , temps him with many things .shows how compelling his nostos is , he does not give in .
pain
Odysseus grandfather , hoping that he will earn his name fully , pain is in his "blood". His scar on his leg , while hunting , maby not coincidental , later proves who he is .
Courage
-Maya Angelou
The founder of civilization
Walk Away
No, its having the courage to walk away. Being able to move on with your life, and being able to forgive and forget is what makes you the bigger person. It defines you not only to your peers, but also to yourself.
Courage is defined as the quality of mind or spirit that enables a person to face difficulty, danger, pain, without fear. When you can do that, it shows that you not only have the courage to face your fears head on, but you can also walk away with your dignity and respect as well.
"We could never learn to be brave and patient if there were only joy in the world."
-Hellen Keller
Civilization Fall
- Havelock Ellis
The end of the human race will be that it will eventually die of civilization.
- Ralph Waldo Emerson
A Proud Day
"Now you'll see, if you care tio watch father now i'm fired up. Disgrace, you say?
I won't disgrace your line!"
Laertes called out in deep delight,
"What a day for me, dear gods! what joy-my son and my grandson vying over courage!"
Book 24, line564
Unbalanced
"Where shepherd calls to shepherd as one drives in his flocks
and the other drives his out and he calls back in answer,
where a man who never sleeps could rake in double wages,
one for herding cattle, one for pasturing fleecy sheep,
the nightfall and the sunrise march so close together."
~ Odysseus
Book 10, page 233, lines 91-95
Heroes
- Christopher Reeve
Christopher Reeve is a man who knows what it means to be a hero - he did play Superman after all. So, coming from him, this quote can actually really affect those who observe it. Odysseus fits the criteria for a hero in more than just the criteria laid out by this quote and yet he fits the above quote almost perfectly. In actuality he really is just an ordinary man, he was born from two mortals (albeit royals) and he grew up among mortals. It wasn't until he was older that his confrontations with the Gods occured. So, from an ordinary upbringing he rose to the occasion and met every challenge presented to him head on - he fought for his life, for his family's life, and for his country.
Most modern day heroes also fit this criteria. Not all are uncommonly strong, or dashingly attractive, or wealthy - some merely had the strength of will to persevere in the face of overwhelming obstacles. Ghandi, Nelson Mandela, Romeo Dallaire, and Martin Luther King to name a few of the more well known ones. However, many more people in our world can be considered heroes just by simply living through overwhelming obstacles. People who have survived a debilitating, often lethal, disease like cancer or people who have struggled with abuse or poverty - these people are heroes in their own right.
Temptation
"Why, even a deathless god
who came upon that place would gaze in wonder,
heart entranced with pleasure. Hermes the guide,
the mighty giant-killer, stood there, spellbound..."
~ Narrator
Book 5, page 154, lines 81-84
Tommy Douglas
While working on my politics presentation, I came across a truly determined, and courageous man, Tommy Douglas. Although he might not have been the most popular of all NDP leaders we've had, he certainly got things started.
“I felt that no boy should have to depend either for his leg or his life upon the ability of his parents to raise enough money to bring a first-class surgeon to his bedside. And I think it was out of this experience, not at the moment consciously, but through the years, I came to believe that health services ought not to have a price tag on them, and that people should be able to get whatever health services they require irrespective of their individual capacity to pay.”
-"Courage, my friends; 'tis not too late to build a better world."
Just a bit of human emotion
"That was the song the famous harper sang
but great Odysseus melted into tears,
running down from his eyes to wet his cheeks..."
~ Narrator
Book 8, page 208, line 585-587
Home at Last
"You-you're truly my son, Odyssues home at last?"
- the first real proof that Odyssues has finally returned home, and has almost completed his Nostos.
Pg 478
book 24, line365
Tyranny...The Answer to Inaction?
-The Ancient Mediterranean World
As a society, we take great pains to avoid concentration of power in any individual, especially in our governmental systems. The rise of bureaucracies and parliaments have facilitated a dilution of power, and many countries, such as America, have established governments where there are internal checks and balances so as to prevent complete power being vested in a single person or body. Afraid of arbitrary rule, we see an eminent corruption in an individual who wields too much power. Concentration of power seems to be the recipe for the demise of freedom.
However, this has not always been the case. Throughout history, this concept of "tyranny" has often proved favourable. In times of civil unrest, war, or instability, having one man making decisions and following a set policy was more effective than having different bodies vying to exercise their own opinions, wasting time and causing divisiveness within a nation. In many cases, when power becomes too spread out, the actions of a government become futile. In modern times, inaction, caused by minority governments and opposing parties, is a problem that many countries struggle with.
Should we be so quick to condemn the concentration of power?
Thursday, December 10, 2009
"Each of us in our own way can try to spread compassion into people's hearts.
Western civilizations these days place great importance on filling the human 'brain' with knowledge, but no one seems to care about filling the human 'heart' with compassion. This is what the real role of religion is."
- Dalai Lama, 1989 Nobel Peace Prize Winner
"All religions are founded on the fear of the many and the cleverness of the few."
- Stendhal, 19th Century French Writer
Civilization; Yesterday, Today, Tomorrow
"You can't say civilization doesn't advance ... In every war they kill you in a new way."
- Will Rogers, American Entertainer
"As long as our civilization is esentially one of property, of fences, of exclusiveness, it will be mocked by delusions." - Ralph Waldo Emerson, American Poet
"Today we are faced with the preeminent fact that, if civilization is to survive, we must cultivate the science of human relationships - the ability of all peoples, of all kinds, to live together, in the same world, at peace."
- Franklin D. Roosevelt, 32nd US President
Odysseus - Mightiest King, Mightiest Beggar
"The two men squared off-
...with a hook below the ear, pounding Irus's neck,
smashing the bones inside-
suddenly red blood
came spurting out of his mouth, and headlong down
he pitched in the dust, howling, teeth locked in a grin,
feet beating on the ground...
'Now hold your post - play the scarecrow to all the pigs and dogs!
But no more lording it over strangers, no more playing
the beggar-king for you, you loathsome fool,
or you'll bring down something worse around your neck!'
He threw his beggar's sack across his shoulders -
torn and tattered ...
then back he went to the sill and took his seat."
Book 18, lines 108-127, The OdysseyAgain and again, Odysseus proves himself as a man beyond average men, a hero of strength no matter what his outer appearances may mislead. Here, he takes down another beggar (aka, "one of his kind"), as unexpected by taunting witnesses. Throughout the end of the epic, he continues to affirm and demonstrate outstanding greatness, whether through skill, cunning, or physique, Odysseus has the whole package of a hero.
Father & Son Reunited
"'No, I am not a god,'
the long-enduring, great Odysseus returned.
'Why confuse me with one who never dies?
No, I am your father -
the Odysseus you wept for all your days,
you bore a world of pain, the cruel abuse of men.'"
-Book 16, lines 209-214, The Odyssey
A true champion
The dinner is served
A beard on his face
The Almighty Forever
"So they mocked, but Odysseus, mastermind in action,This momentous act allowed Odysseus's true kleos to shine through, even in the form of another body. Disguised as the lowest of the lows in society, this showed Odysseus's true value as a hero, being able to out-skill all others as their jaws dropped in amazement. Even without his outer, beautiful appearance of muscle and strength, he can still prove he is a hero with a "mastermind" of cunning and finesse, as well as showing himself as the rightful man for his bride.
once he'd handled the great bow and scanned every inch,
then, like an expert singer skilled at lyre and song ...
with his virtuoso ease Odysseus strung his mighty bow ...
Horror swept through the suitors, faces blanching white
... drawing the notch
and bowstring back, back ... he let fly -
clean on through to the last and out"
Book 21, lines 451-470, The Odyssey
The Slaughter
-The Odyssey (Book 20; Line 434)
Working the 9 to 5
-Hesiod (Loeb Classical Library Reader; Works and Days; Page 14)
The Great Soldier
-Book 24, lines 196-201
The Powerful God
Odysseus, master of land ways and sea ways,
command yourself. Call off this battle now,
or Zeus who views the wide world may be angry."
-Book 24, lines 605-609
Is it Okay to Believe What's Right in Front of Your Eyes?
"Living proof -
Penelope felt her knees go slack, her heart surrender,
recognizing the strong clear signs Odysseus offered.
She dissolved in tears, rushed to Odysseus, flung her arms
around his neck ...
But don't fault me, angry with me now because I failed,
at the first glimpse, to greet you, hold you so ...
In my heart of hearts I always cringed with fear
some fraud might come, beguile me with his talk;
the world is full of the sort,
cunning ones who plot their own dark ends."
- Book 23, p462, lines 230-245, The Odyssey
After the longest 20 years of their lives, the gods have long tested the love between Odysseus and Penelope, ultimately giving them every opportunity to give up on each other after years upon years apart. They have faced overwhelming evidence that they were meant to be apart, with Penelope having countless men to choose from to replace the invaluable Odysseus, thinking she might never rest her eyes upon him again, in addition to the several obstacles and temptations Odysseus faced along the journey back to his native territory. The tests of their love have been so agonizing that the idea of finally reuniting with the love of her life is completely inconceivable. She thinks this must be some sort of cruel joke, a misuse of the skill of cunning. However, when she finally realizes that her dreams have long last become reality, the euphoria is incomparable.
Fearless
-Book 11, lines 106-107
- At this part of the Book you can tell Odysseus is fearless and is up for any challenge. No matter what the task is he will complete it. He knows that he is a leader and if he were to show a little bit of fear his crew would give up and accept defeat. Odysseus knows this, that's why he will never show fear. He is a leader and an example for his crew.
Heroic Mantra
Eurylochus the Brave
The Life of a Human
This describes the life of most human beings. Everyone nowadays always strives to become rich and live the "good life", but we don't know exactly what this good life really is. We don't find peace of mind because we are too busy "labouring night and day" whether it be at our job or at school. All our lives we want to make money and be powerful because people tell us that's what we should want. The idea of being rich and powerful is fixated in the minds of humans. The working for us never ends...
Thinking Ahead
"'Nohbdy, Nohbdy's tricked me, Nohbdy's ruined me.'"
-Book 9, line 443
-A smart person is someone who plan's for the future. In this quote Odysseus shows his ability to think ahead in situations. He knew that if he were to try and hurt the beast he would be attacked by the other Cyclopes so he tricked the beast into thinking his name was Nohbdy. This trick would give Odysseus time to escape the island in order to return home. This is another aspect why he is a true hero. He takes per cautions when needed for his own safety.
Master of cunning makes a mistake.
Suffering to achieve.
"So I said, and it broke my shipmates' hearts.
They sank down on the ground, moaning, tore their hair.
But it gained us nothing-what good can come of grief?"
~ Odysseus
Book 10, page 248, line 623-625
Odysseus knows that he and his men must suffer more. Knowing that he has not achieved his nostos yet, he must continue on. Suffering along with his men is not an option in order to succeed in achieving his goal. This is a requirement of a hero according to Homer and so Odysseus must toil and slave longer in order to acquire greatness. Being plagued by the gods through bad weather and the circumstances that surely test his capabilities and skill, Odysseus knows that he will get what he wants. He will return home.
The idea of heroism in the Greek civilization is evident and very prominent in Homer's classic; the Odyssey, the journey of a man who achieves greatness and the title of a hero through his troubles and travels. In order to deserve, one must prove themselves worthy of the title; "hero".
If you suffer, you will be rewarded. This also refernces back to the idea of the golden mean, the balance in Greek society that maintains values. The balance of negative and positive, of good and evil, of suffering and rewards, is required in life. To learn and go through circumstances in life that show this balance is a requirement of life.
Outsmarted
"Not for all the world. Not
until you consent to swear, goddess, a binding oath
you'll never plot some new intrigue to harm me!"
~ Odysseus
Book 10, page 241, line 380-382
This shorter passage from The Odyssey gives us key information about more of Odysseus' character. Metis, and/or cunning, is "shrewdness as demonstrated by being skilled in deception" (Google, Define:). Being able to manipulate Circe into getting what he wants and spare him from being used, we see that Odysseus is a thinker rather than using means of brawn when it comes to his current situation to achieve what he wants. This theme of brains over brawn is a reoccurring one along with the theme of cunning. Outsmarting the witch in order to protect himself is what he does, and one can say that this increases one's chance of survival.
Wednesday, December 9, 2009
A great leader
Son meets Father
This quote marks the first contact between Odysseus and Telemachus. Father-son relations are a significant theme present in the Odyssey but all of the other examples are inferior to the likes of this one because for the 15 books preceding this, the two have shown that they needed to find each other through each of their journeys. This also marks the point where their missions merge. Odysseus, on top of getting home, must now find a way to rid of the suitors.
The Lost Symbol
This thriller of a novel is evidently considerably deep in terms of how much intellectual content is present. Here Brown describes a person's transformation. He specifies that taking care of your body is paramount in terms of self perfection along with expanding one's mind. Specifically, the mention of the Odyssey indicates that Brown must consider it a worthy story worth reading as it inspires his character to not only improve his physical body but also is a part of his intellectual expansion. The context that the Odyssey is mentioned in shows our link to the past; how we want to imitate great warriors of Homer's time by being as physically perfected as one can be while having a constantly developing mind that can bend ideas into realities.
Cunning
"I will tell you. But you must give me a guest-gift as you've promised.
Nobody-that's my name. Nobody-so my mother and father call me, all my
friends."
~Odysseus
Book 9, page 223, line 409-411
I know you now.
"What pains-the gods have given me my share.
Now let me begin by telling you my name...
so you may know it well and I in times to come,
if I can escape the fatal day, will be your host,
your sworn friend, though my home is far from here.
I am Odysseus, son of Laertes, known to the world
for every kind of craft-my fame has reached the skies."
~Odysseus
Book 9, page 212, line 16-22
In this passage we have Odysseus, our hero, identifying himself to the Phaeacians and beginning to tell his story to them. He tells us that he has suffered, as all true heroes do, and that he will prevail until he arrives on his native land again. Knowing of his fame, he tells us that he is the one people speak of; he is a hero. He is cabable and skilled, he has suffered and prospered, he has gotten to where he is now because he has perservered. The theme of "unveiling" and "identification" is evident knowing that the Phaeacian people do not know who he is and do not recognise him. The identification of our hero in this passage declares an under layer of truth and wisdom from Odysseus.
The Sweetest Sight
"I know no sweeter sight on earth than a man's own native country."
~ Odysseus
Book 9, page 212, line 31-32
Not Yet...
"What hard labor, queen," the man of craft replied, "to tell you the story
of my troubles start to finish."~ Odysseus
Book 7, page 187, line 277-278
Subconcious Transitions
"He set out for the woods and not far from the water
found a grove with a
clearing all around and crawled
beneath two bushy olives sprung from the
same root,
one olive wild, the other well-bred stock."
~ Narrator
Book 5, page 167, line 525-528
This depiction of Odysseus that Homer gives to us shows us the current state that our hero is in. Naked with nothing to aid him, shelter him, or provide for him, we see that Odysseus has been reduced to the circumstances of a human. Purely with nothing else, he sleeps underneath these two olive bushes; one wild, one tame. This natural imagery tells us of the boundaries between the civilized world and the uncivilized world; the difference between wild, and tame. Odysseus, having nothing, is dirty, naked, hungry and wild. The action of sleeping represents a transition for Odysseus from the wild to the civilized world. The separation from reality and fantasy is represented by sleep; it is a transition.
The Latest and Greatest
Humans beings seem to have always housed the desire to discover the next best thing, praising the up-and -coming and shunning older models. How many of us discarded our perfectly functional iPods or cell phones when a newer, more exciting model was introduced? Does our desire for the latest and (so we think) greatest reflect an appreciation of innovation, or a naïve belief that the new is always an improvement from the old?
Tuesday, December 8, 2009
Emotion
-The Odyssey; Book 20, Line 10
Pure emotion-anger and hatred-has filled Odysseus' soul. As we learned in Hamlet, it takes a lot for a normal human being to kill another. Odysseus has clearly killed before, but it was out of necessity and a defense of his city rather than an extremely personal scorn for another man. Although Odysseus had affairs with other women during his time away from Ithaca, he appeared to always want to eventually return to Penelope. Once he realized what the suitors had been up to-pestering his wife, taking his food, and performing pure savagery in his own house-Odysseus was insulted. He was so insulted that he reached the point of murder. Odysseus has to defend his honour and his wife's honour not only because of the ramifications if he doesn't, the suitors continuing to bother the family and his reputation, but also because emotion is the truest gauge of a man's character, a character that he must stay true to.
The Life of A Hero
Our lives, our mood and mind as we pass across the earth, turn as the days turn . . ." - Odyssey, Book 18, Lines 150-158
The Path to Glory
What Happened to Eternal Paradise?
Excellence
-Barack Obama
HSC Tradition
-Pride, Excellence, Tradition.
Definition:
The quality of being excellent; state of possessing good qualities in an eminent degree; exalted merit; superiority in virtue.
Reassurance
In book 11, while Odysseus is talking to Agamemnon, there comes a point when he mentions how his wife was unfaithful, but Odysseus has no need to worry about this because his wife is clever, and always honourable to her husband, but why does that rule only apply to the wife? Why is it reassuring that Penelope is faithful and clever, all the while Odysseus has slept with every women who has tempted him. The balance confuses me, becuase Odyssues has no guilty concious.
Monday, December 7, 2009
Can Grief Lead to Good?
Philosophy
-The Ancient Mediterranean World; Page 72
Philosophy's birthplace coincided with democracy, modern literature, citizenship, and other matters of utmost importance during the sixth century B.C. in Greece. Philosophy is an important thing to study because it looks at the bigger picture; why things are how they are and if in fact things actually are how they appear. Philosophy opens people up to the possibility that their reality may not be quite what they thought it was. The problem with philosophy has always been, and looks as if it will continue to be, that it is a subject that leaves many questions unanswered. It often moves in endless circles that give one no reasonable assurance or proof about a certain matter. Nevertheless, it is important to question what has been taught, for without questioning there will never be any intellectual progress.
Gods Acting for Their Individual Benifits
"But now they've swept him across the sea in their swift ship, they've set him down in Ithaca, sounds asleep, and loaded the man with boundless gifts- bronze and hoards of gold and robes- aye, more plunder than he could ever have won from Troy if Odysseus had returned intact with his fair share!" (13.153-157)
Poseidon and Helios through books 12 and 13 are examples of such gods who do as they wish in order to satisfy their wants. Helios is angry at the fact that Odysseus' crew killed his cattle. Poseidon simply doesn't seem to like Odysseus. They both get what they want but a key factor relating the two is that they both speak to Zeus perhaps for guidance or permission to let off their anger.
Poseidon has no real quarrel with Odysseus but he just doesn't seem satisfied that he travels home as easily as he had. This simply isn't fair at all for Odysseus unless you consider the fact that the cyclops was a child of Poseidon but before their encounter, it was apparent that he had things against Odysseus.
Helios had a legitimate reason to be angry with Odysseus' crew since they had eaten his heart's joy. It was because he was so quick to react to their actions proves that their own selves (gods) are more significant than those of mortals and possibly other gods. Therefore this is evidence that gods act for themselves much more willingly than for others.
Examining this, it seems as though this is evidence to the fact that gods were a force to be feared in Homer's time, at least from Homer's perspective. Therefore it must have been an apparent consideration that would've affected the decisions of the people in that age. Also this can be interpreted as a possible flaw in the gods. Homer depicts them, with this evidence, as self loving supreme immortal beings (excluding Athena) and thus makes them poor role models for being an overall good being. Maybe it was Homer's interpretation that gods weren't meant to be imitated but simply to be feared and respected as they are a higher force that is impossible to parallel.
temptation a humans greatest weakness?
The Easy Way out
- A true hero never gives up, they keep working until they have achieved what they set out to do. In this quote Odysseus shows a sign of suicide. To him it seems like nothing is going his way. He doesn't see the point of life if nothing is going his way. If Odysseus were to give up he wouldn't just be letting himself down, his crewman would also be effected by him giving up. If Odysseus there leader were to give up they would have no one to follow and think it is alright to give up. This is why it's always best to never give up. You should always work hard as you can.
Sunday, December 6, 2009
Nostos
Beggar
Mutiny and Admiration
Old Phrases, New Meanings
Modesty
Cattle of the Sun
Hercules
Saturday, December 5, 2009
Cruel World
This quote reminds me a lot of beggars today and how today's society treats/interprets them. Although we don't know what beggars have gone through in their past, many of us hesitate to give them money or food. Whenever a beggar asks me for money, I always give them some. I think of how I would feel in their situation. Maybe they wasted their life and dropped out of school, but what if you did the same? As far as I'm concerned, you'd still be a human who still needs food, water, shelter, etc. I see many people who certainly have change or have food that they don't want but still do not give it to these people. Back then, with exception to Antinous, people did not hesitate to give others food or shelter even if they did not know them or their past. When people saw others in a bad situation, they helped them. The world was a much more trusting and hospitable place back then, but has changed greatly overtime. The world today seems to be a paranoid and unkind place in which everyone only cares about their own well being.
Neighbourly Love
-Cicero (Loeb Classical Library Reader; "Duty to one's neighbour"; pg. 133)
The value of neighbours and community was quite prevalent in Ancient Greece. Parents taught their children to respect, defend, and support their neighbours in order to receive the same treatment in return. This was because of a sense of community in Greek culture; a result of the explosion of city states. In modern day society we generally don't care about community; with the exception of small towns or villages. This lack of togetherness or community pride is the result of the ongoing fight for individual rights. Every person wants the choice to live their life unbounded by an obligation to the state or any organization for that matter. It is commendable that we have reached the point where this right is a reality, unfortunately community was lost along the way.
Unhappiness ages you
Book 19: Penelope and her Guest
"Odysseus must have feet and hands like his by now--
hardship can age a person overnight." - Penelope
Stress is supposed to be healthy for people, though grief and pain really does age you. Just a neat thought.
Wednesday, December 2, 2009
2012
"I know we've been forced to make difficult decisions to save our human civilization, but to be human means to care for each other, and civilization means to work together to create a better life. If that's true then there's nothing human and nothing civilized about what we're doing here." (Roland Emerich, 2012)
In the recent film, 2012, the idea of civilization arises as an issue around the point that could be considered as the climax of the movie. This part of the film has the protagonist bring up the question as to what it means to be civilized and human in order to save a very large number of people.
Emerich's view on the definition of civilization isn't at all specific in this quote but the context it is used in helps to impress upon us the significance of the equality of human lives. Civilization being a means to create a better life through human relationships is essentially a pillar of what the definition of being civilized is. Human beings helping each other in order to move forward with discoveries, wealth, and cultural advancement is constantly something that is seen in history when new eras rise and old ones fall. Therefore, Emerich's mention of civilization within his film doesn't at all stray from the truth of what we could consider being civilized human beings.
Loyalty
-Odysseus (The Odyssey; Book 16, Page 344, Line 209)
With Odysseus now revealing his true identity to his son, he is now closer than ever to completing his homecoming. When he returns home to his wife, slaughters the suitors, and is recognized by the Ithacans, he will receive glory (kleos) and complete his journey as a hero. The theme of delayed identification in the Odyssey has rightfully been discussed as a lesson that the Greeks wanted to teach: boasting and arrogance will only bring harm and conflict to a man. The Odyssey, and more specifically the theme of delayed identification, also shows a contemporary reader just how much deception and treachery occured in Ancient Greece. The suitors, for instance, had no problem with raiding Odysseus'-a local hero-home as soon as they believed him to be gone. Mutiny also took place earlier in the story when Odysseus' shipmates thought he was stealing from them. When Odysseus returns to Ithaca, he must first test the loyalty of the swineherd Eumaeus. The extraordinary part occurs when Odysseus does not even reveal his true identity to his son until he is sure of Telemachus' intentions.
Hate the Sin & Not the Sinner
Ben Harper: Fight for your Mind
- Ben Harper, Burn one Down (Fight for your mind)
Tuesday, December 1, 2009
Philoctetes as seen in Disney
Greatness
have come from afar, creating pain for many—
men and women across the good green earth—
so let his name be Odysseus . . .
the Son of Pain, a name he’ll earn in full."
This quote shows the true greatness of the family of Odysseus. They recognize the importance of suffering for greatness, and even go so far as to wish it upon their family, knowing that it will be beneficial in the long run.
The quote emphasizes the importance of suffering. The Greek man knew that suffering was greatness. If a man was not willing to suffer, then he was not a true man and he can never be great or even respected.
This quote also emphasizes that pain and suffering is in his blood, which in my opinion is part of what makes him capable of greatness. It is in his blood and his destiny that he wil suffer, and suffering goes hand in hand with greatness. One cannot exist without the other.
That is what is the problem with our society. We have tried to eliminate the suffering and make everyone feel great. By eliminating the suffering, nobody has tgo do anything to be praised and so, in reality, all praise is meaningless and empty. Everyone is being told that they are special and unque and great in their own way, able to do anything. However, the problem is, is that when people start to expect more and more for less, greatness will disappear, and true greatness is often resented by common people. They see what they are being called, and it bothers them because they will never be able to attain it. They whine about how they never had the opportunities that great people have. "if they were in their situation, they would be great too." They try to defame true greatness in an attempt to make themselves feel special.
importance of pain
pain built into him
destiny
Sunday, November 29, 2009
The Way Every Society Should Be
This is one of the main reasons why the Greeks were able to prosper. They formed a group, and every person in that group was part of the whole. In some places today, many people in certain societies are discriminated against whether it be due to sex, religion, etc. The Greeks did not discriminate based on unchangeable qualities and were able to receive input from everyone. When everyone works together, great things can be accomplished. This was also shown by the Greeks when they fought in the Persian wars.
Kleos in the Odyssey
Wednesday, November 25, 2009
Cunning & brute strength is a deadly combination
This shows that he new it would have to be much more than just stab the giants eye well sleeping and new that he would have to come up with a way in order for the giant to go into a heavy sleep therefore allowing them to set up for the jabbing of the olive stake in the eye. Also The name nobody was a huge factor because without it the giants Friends would have found Odysseus and his crew. Then the brute strength came in with the blinding of the giant. That's why cunning and brute strength is a deadly combination.
Tuesday, November 24, 2009
Alcohol
I found this quote extremely interesting because it speaks to everyone. When we are drunk, it can bring about feelings / thoughts that are deep inside our mind. For example, we may not want to do something, but we do it when we are drunk because we're in a state of mind when our thoughts and feelings are vulnerable. Alcohol prompts Odysseus to tell the whole story with every detail to his old swineherd (he is able to conceal the fact that he is Odysseus though), and it also appears in a few other instances throughout the poem. For example, it makes the Cyclops act like a fool and causes his demise. This quote relates to the fact that alcohol (although we all drink it) is a horrible influence on us, but it can also show people a different side of us in some cases as well.
Ophelia, Act 4
Poor Ophelia is always being used. She is used to spy on her boyfriend, Hamlet, by her father. And in used as a lover by Hamlet. She is let into his heart as a virgin and they very well know that they cannot marry because she isn't of royalty. And then she is let out of Hamlet's room not being a virgin. She is used by her father and lover.
Poor Ophelia! :(
The Kingdom of the Dead
- (Book 11, 547-558)
Achilles and Odysseus argue because Odysseus is envious of the strength that Achilles won by and although he is now dead he was strong and did something great. However, Achilles is jealous that Odysseus is still alive and breathing
Monday, November 23, 2009
Kleos vs. The Value Of Life
Sunday, November 22, 2009
Restrain Yourself, Heroically
What Eurylochus says in this quote can be described as mutinous in nature since it goes directly oppositely to what he and the rest of the crew were told not to do. This speech led through a series of events that eventually landed Odysseus in Ogygia, the place where he suffered significantly. Another event that was caused by this was Eurylochus' own death as well as that of the remaining crew. All this happened from a lack of heroic restraint.
The blame however can't be isolated to Eurylochus. Everyone, including Odysseus were feeling the results of days of brute effort and hardships after watching their own die, experiencing the six headed beast Scylla, and the cyclops as well. Eurylochus simply thought that he and the rest of the men deserve some kind of reward for their efforts. The key difference between Odysseus and Eurylochus is heroic restraint. Odysseus never breaks, and his will power is formidable. In the words of Eurylochus: "Your fighting spirit's stronger than ours, your stamina never fails. You must be made of iron head to foot." (Odyssey. Book 12. 302) When he says that, he is already admitting that he's weaker and thus he opens the doors to other possibilities that would lead only to paths of ease. In this case, he accepts death as an option, something that Odysseus wouldn't give into for many many years.
Heroic restraint means to avoid the path of the lazy and weak. It means to follow the path that will lead to kleos in your mind or others. It means to overcome hardships through discipline and effort. It means to be like Odysseus, and not like Eurylochus.
Friday, November 20, 2009
Beliefs are mirrored
Let's just go with the general understanding that people with more conservative values tend to have religious ones as well, and people with more liberal values tend to be agnostic/atheist.
LET'S JUST SAY THAT. This is the assumption for my little idea.
Liberals think it's so silly that conservatives put their beliefs into religion -- "that could never happen", where conservatives find it so silly that liberals put their beliefs into politics -- "that could never work".
For example, conservatives are typically practical and don't believe in change, so much. They don't have much of a dream for society, they just like to stay the same and believe what they've always believed. They have faith in the familiar.
Alternately, liberals are typically open-minded to new things and advocate change, so they are dreamers in a political sense. They have hope that there will be a flawless system.
You can't stereotype either wing, I know, but it's interesting that each side has its own "silly" belief system that the other side just cannot seem to understand.
When I say conservatives, I do NOT mean neocons, by the way. Think WASP.
Thursday, November 19, 2009
Tuesday, November 17, 2009
The Hallmark of The Second-Rater
Does Suffering really lead to success?
In the Book The Odyssey King Odysseus is suffering on the island of Troy for years ,but from that he has learned many things and required many strengths.Also if he had not been through what he has Odysseus would not be as much as a hero then he was in Ithaca since he was fighting for his city.But also if you suffered to much that could be a horrible thing since it will haunt you for the rest of your life and may even cause you to snap. That is why i believe suffering does help you succeed but only to a certain extend.